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    Quote Originally Posted by brisca View Post
    Glad I was on the right track there then, Lynn

    This is a really good part of the forum

    It's really useful that we can ask questions without feeling daft, and share our knowledge (however limited it might be! )

    I'm sure you speak much better spanish than you think you do



    are you going to do the worksheet then?

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    Do you mean the one you've recently posted............or the "gustar" one that I still haven't done!!!
    Good job you're not setting me homework, isn't it!

    I will deffo have a go at both of the worksheets; I'm just not sure when!
    I don't know where the days go??

    Haven't been on here for ages, and I need to try my hand at the quiz again soon.

    Just gonna have lunch now (I can smell the fish burning!!)

    Hasta luego! x

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    Quote Originally Posted by brisca View Post
    Do you mean the one you've recently posted............or the "gustar" one that I still haven't done!!!
    Good job you're not setting me homework, isn't it!

    I will deffo have a go at both of the worksheets; I'm just not sure when!
    I don't know where the days go??

    Haven't been on here for ages, and I need to try my hand at the quiz again soon.

    Just gonna have lunch now (I can smell the fish burning!!)

    Hasta luego! x

    oh yeah - I forgot about the gustar one


    yes & please play the quiz - I could do with some serious competition, I seem to remember that you scaored 10/10 last time you played

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    Cool, I tend to always use sobre (as it means so many things it's less Spanish to learn!) and hadn't come across encima yet so wondered if one was contextually more relevant to certain situations

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    Quote Originally Posted by lynnxa View Post
    oh yeah - I forgot about the gustar one


    yes & please play the quiz - I could do with some serious competition, I seem to remember that you scaored 10/10 last time you played

    I hadn't forgotten about the gustar one.........honestly!

    Yes, I did (amazingly) get 10/10 last time - that's why I haven't done the quiz since

    No seriously, I will get back to it soon hopefully; I enjoy it
    You are a bit of a whiz on there though - you are tough competition!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shinyandy View Post
    Cool, I tend to always use sobre (as it means so many things it's less Spanish to learn!) and hadn't come across encima yet so wondered if one was contextually more relevant to certain situations

    It's always good to learn different words, and contexts for using them, isn't it Andy?

    It's funny, but I always think of an envelope or a little packet of flu remedy powder when I hear "sobre" - so I suppose that's why I tend not to use it in an "encima" context!

    Do you find it funny how some words just seem to stick in your mind, and yet others constantly escape your efforts at recollection!?

    It took me absolutely ages to be able to remember "agujero" (hole) but now it seems to be stuck in my brain forever - but for the life of me I cannot remember the word for bat (as in Dracula flying creature!) "murcielago".
    There should be an accent over the "e", but I haven't got them on my keyboard

    Have you got any favourite Spanish words or expressions?

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    "dios mio" seems my current favourite

    I struggle with similar words a lot; mujer/mayor/mejor and I can never remember my delado, detras, delante 's. Current nasties that I keep using the wrong one is despues, demasiado, despacio

    I've been learning thanks to my other half/Michel Thomas and some podcasts for about a year and understand loads (counted my verb knowledge at 120 now - even some horrible irregular past tenses). Speaking it on the other hand is a massive hurdle and despite numerous attempts at the spanish meetups that my oh organises I just can't find anyone at my level or above that I can feel comfortable with.

    *excuse the spellings

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    Quote Originally Posted by brisca View Post
    It's always good to learn different words, and contexts for using them, isn't it Andy?

    It's funny, but I always think of an envelope or a little packet of flu remedy powder when I hear "sobre" - so I suppose that's why I tend not to use it in an "encima" context!

    Do you find it funny how some words just seem to stick in your mind, and yet others constantly escape your efforts at recollection!?

    It took me absolutely ages to be able to remember "agujero" (hole) but now it seems to be stuck in my brain forever - but for the life of me I cannot remember the word for bat (as in Dracula flying creature!) "murcielago".
    There should be an accent over the "e", but I haven't got them on my keyboard

    Have you got any favourite Spanish words or expressions?

    I tend to use hoyo for hole - it was the first one I learned & it stuck - I know it's not always 'correct' - but it's always the one that comes out!

    murciélago - took me ages to be able to pronounce that one!
    and vosotros in the preterite - jeez that took a while to get my head around - complete blind spot - but then I hardly ever use it!
    there are some that never seem to go in though - some of which are in the books I teach from - you can imagine how embarrasing that can be but they are words I never use otherwise!

    I've started to write the translations next to them in the books - well I can't be exoected to know everything!


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    Quote Originally Posted by brisca View Post

    It's funny, but I always think of an envelope or a little packet of flu remedy powder when I hear "sobre" - so I suppose that's why I tend not to use it in an "encima" context!
    I thought encima was when something was literally on top of and touching but sobre could be when something was on top of but not necessarily touching.

    Quote Originally Posted by brisca View Post
    .... but for the life of me I cannot remember the word for bat (as in Dracula flying creature!) "murcielago".
    There should be an accent over the "e", but I haven't got them on my keyboard
    Just think of the Lamborghini Lamborghini Murciélago - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia goes like a bat out hell !

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Capitan View Post
    I thought encima was when something was literally on top of and touching but sobre could be when something was on top of but not necessarily touching.




    that would be 'correct' - although as with english people speaking english, the spanish don't always use things 'correctly'

    my spanish comes from both studying & 'the street' - if I was trying to pass exams I would use the 'correct' form - but in general conversation I tend to say the quickest, easiest - or the one I am most used to hearing

    my biggest challenge at the moment is an english boy I am tutoring for IGCSE spanish - he has picked up a lot of slang, and because his group of friends is very international, with varying levels of spoken spanish, they all speak a very strange span/ger/engl/rus/ish if you see what I mean

    it is proving really difficult for him to speak 'correct' spanish - particularly when a lot of the IGCSE vocab is totally different to what we know we hear on the street!

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